Children of aimma by TripolySunni


Bismi’llah

I’ll just go a bit off-topic here as I discuss The relation of the Ahlulbayt and the Sahaba in general as far as how they named their children and so on Also you’ll notice the name Ja’afar Appear often which shows how much the ahlulbayt respect him.

Now i Know that Some may jump and say that The Names Omar, Abu Bakr and Uthman were pretty famous names thus The AhlulBayt picked them specifically… As lame as this argument might sound it contradicts one of their “Hadiths” or a more scientific word would be “Lies” such as the one written below in Usool el Kafi:

عن يعقوب السراج قال: دخلت على أبي عبدالله(عليه السلام) وهو واقف على رأس أبي الحسن موسى وهو في المهد، فجعل يسارّه طويلا، فجلست حتى فرغ، فقمت إليه فقال لي: «ادن من مولاك فسلّم، فدنوت فسلمت عليه فردّ عليّ السلام بلسان فصيح، ثم قال لي: اذهب فغيّر اسم ابنتك التي سميتها أمس، فانه اسم يبغضه الله، وكان ولِدت لي ابنة سمّيتهابالحميراء. فقال أبو عبدالله: انته الى أمره ترشد، فغيّرت اسمها اُصول الكافي : 1 / 310، ح 11
brief translation: “Ya’aqoob el Siraj Sai: I entered on Abu abdAllah PBUH and he was standing near Abi al Hassan Mousa who was a baby, Then He(Abu AbdAllah) Told Me: Give Salams To Your Mawla So I did Then he Returned the Salam To me in an eloquent tongue Then he told me: Go and change your daughter’s name Which you have named yesterday for it is a name which Allah Hates. I Had a daughter which I called Humeira’a So Abu AbdAllah Said: Follow what he says & you’ll be guided, So I changed her name” [Usool el Kafi 1/310, H#11].

Now forget about the fact that the baby talked, Basically this is a narration in Usool el Kafi meaning the most important of the Kafi books that the twelvers take their Usool from, “Humeira’a” is the name which Rassul Allah PBUH used to call Aisha RAA with (And they hate her) So According to them Musa el Kathim RAA Didn’t like it and he said that Allah didn’t like it.

Now that this is out of the way I’ll mention a few things That I know of regarding the AhlulBayt and what names they gave to their children:

Abu Bakr:

Abu Bakr Bin Ali Bin Abi Talib:
Died with Hussein RAA in Karbala, his mother is Layla Bint Masood Al Nahshaliyah. Mentionned by Al Mufid in Al Irshad P 248 – 186, Also in “Tareekh el Ya’aqoobi Fi Awlad Ali”, Muntaha el Amal for Abbas el Qummi 261/1 He mentions that his name is Mohammad and his surname is Abu Bakr “محمد يكنى بأبي بكر” p 544/1 and bihar el anwar for Majlisi 120/42.

Abu Bakr Bin Al Hassan Bin Ali Bin Abi Talib:
died with his uncle Hussein in Karbala, Mentioned by Sheikh Al Mufid in Al Irshad under “Deaths In Karbala” ” قتلى كربلاء ” P 248 and “Tareekh al Ya’aqoobi Fi awlad el Hassan” and Muntaha el Amal for Abbas el Qummi 544/1 under “Martyrdom of the Bani Hashim Youths in Karbala” “استشهاد فتيان بني هاشم في كربلاء”.

Abu Bakr Ali Zain’ul Abedeen:
The Nickname for Ali Zain’ul Abedeen RAA was Abu bakr and this was mentioned in many locations Specially in “Al Anwar el Nu’umaniyah” for Ni’imatu’llah Al Jaza’eree “الأنوار النعمانية للجزائري”.

Abu Bakr Ali Bin Musa el Kathim Bin Ja’afar el Sadik:
Ali Al Redah RAA was nicknamed Abu Bakr and this is mentioned in Noori al Tabrasi’s Book “Al Noor Al Thakib fi Alqab wa Asma’a Al Hujjah al Gha’eb”:

14- أبو بكر وهي إحدى كُنى الإمام الرضا كما ذكرها أبو الفرج الأصفهاني في مقاتل الطالبيين.
“Abu Bakr is a nickname of Imam al Redah as Abu AlFaraj al Asfahani Mentioned in his book “مقاتل الطالبيين”.

Abu Bakr Mohammad al Mahdi al Mountazar ibn Al Hassan Al Askari:
Noori el Tabrasi said The Nickname of Al Mahdi Al Mountazar(Born before 1250 yrs according to twelvers) is Abu Bakr and this is mentioned in the exact same source as above.

Abu Bakr Ibn Abdullah Ibn Ja’afar ibn Abi Talib:
mentioned by The writer of “Ansab el Ashraf” “أنساب الأشراف ” P68: “Sons of AbduLLah Ibn Ja’afar…And Abu Bakr died with Hussein and thier mother Al Khawsa’a from Rabiah…”

ولد عبد الله بن جعفر. . . وأبا بكر قُتِلَ مع الحسين وأمهم الخوصاء من ربيعة. . .

And he was mentioned by Khalifah bin Khiyat In His History book P240 In “Naming Those who died from bani Hashim in The Day of Hurrah” “تسمية من قُتِلَ يوم الحرة من بني هاشم”.

Umar:

Umar Bin Al Atraf Bin Ali Ibn Abi Talib:
His Mother is Umm Habib AlSahba’a al Taghlubiyah Min Sabi AlRida “أم حبيب الصهباء التغلبية من سبي الردة”. from “Al Silsilah al Alawiyah” for Abi al Nasr al bukhari Al Shi’i P123 under “Nasab Umar el Atraf” “نسب عمر الأطرف” Also in “Mountaha el Amal” for Abbas el Qummi 261/1 who said “عمر ورقية الكبرى التوأمان ” “Umar and The Elder Ruqayyah were twins” and in Bihar el Anwar 120/42.

Umar Bin al Hassan bin Ali ibn Abi Talib:
His Mother is Umm Walad he died with his uncle Hussein in Karbala, mentioned in “Umdat el Talib” for Ibn Anabah P116 and Tareekh el Ya’aqoobi P228 under the children of Hassan.
Al Ya’aqoobi Said: “Al Hassan had 8 Male children and they are…And Zaid…and Umar and Al Qassim and Abu Bakr and Abdul Rahman fro other wives and Talha and Abdullah…”

وكان للحسن ثمانية ذكور وهم. . . وزيد. . . وعمر والقاسم وأبو بكر وعبد الرحمن لأمهاتٍ شتى وطلحة وعبد الله

Umar al Ashraf Bin Ali Zain el Abedeen Bin al Hussein:
His Mother is umm walad and he is called “Al Ashraf” because he comes from a Husseini(Father) and a Hassaniyah(Mother) as opposed to Umar Al Atraf who only comes from Ali ibn Abi Talib thus the word “Atraf” which means “One Side”, Mentionned in Al irshad for Al mufid 261 and Umdat el Talib for Ibn Anabah P223. He is also mentioned in Many Zaidi Shiite Narrations.

Umar Bin Yahya bin al hussein Bin Zaid Bin Ali Bin Hussein bin Ali Bin Abi Talib:
mentioned by Mohammad Al A’alami al Ha’iri “محمد الأعلمي الحائري ” in “Tarajim A’alam el Nisa’a” Under the name of Bint Al Hassan Bin Ubayd Allah Bin Ja’afar al Tayyar P359.

Umar Bin Musa el Kathim Bin Ja’afar el Sadik:
mentioned by Ibn Al Khashab in The Children of Musa el Kathim.
Al Khashab said:” 20 Sons With Umar and Aqil and 18 daughters ”

عشرون ابناً زاد فيهم عمراً وعقيلاً وثماني عشرةَ بنتاً
This is mentioned in “Tawarikh el Nabi wal Aal” “تواريخ النبي والآل لمحمد تقي التستري” For Mohammad Taki el Tastari.

Uthman:

Uthman bin Ali ibn abi talib:
“قُتِلَ مع الحسين في كربلاء وأمة أم البنين بنت حزام الوحيدية ثم الكلابية” Died with Hussein In Karbala and his Mother is Umm el Banin Bint Hizam al Wahidiyah, mentioned in Al Irshad for Mufid P186- 428 also in “A’ayan el nisa’a” “أعيان النساء” for Mohammad Redah Al Hakimi P51, In Tareekh el Ya’aqoobi under Children of Ali, Mountaha el Amal 544/1, Al Tastari in “Tawarikh el Nabi wal Aal” P115 under “Awlad Ameer’ul moumineen”.

Uthman bin Aqil bin Abi Talib:
“ذكره البلاذري في أنساب الأشراف ” mentionned bu Balathi in Ansab el Ashraf P70 He said:”Sons of Aqil Musliman…Uthman” ” ولد عقيل مسلماً… وعثمان”.

Aisha:

Aisha Bint Musa el Kathim Ibn Ja’afar el Sadik:
mentioned by many shiite scholars headed by Al Mufid in his “Irshad” P303 and in Umdat el Talib P266 and Al Anwar el nu’umaniyah for Ni’imatullah el Jaza’eree “والأنوار النعمانية لنعمة الله الجزائري” P 380/1.

A Proof for their love of Aisha RAA is that Musa el Kathim had 37 Sons and one daughter which he named Aisha, mentioned in Al Anwar el Nu’umaniyah 380/1 That:”As for his children he had 37 sons and 1 daughter, Imam Ali al Redah And..and..and..and..and…and Aisha”.
Although other scholars say the number is different, Abu Nasr al bukhari el Shi’i Said “Sons of Musa are 18 Boys and 22 Girls” in “Sir el Silsilah el alawiyah” “سر السلسلة العلوية ” P53.
Al Tastari mentioned 17 girls in “Tawareekh el Nabi wal Aal” he said “Elder Fatimah and young Fatimah and Ruqayyah and young ruqayyah and Hakimah and Umm Abiha and umm Kulthoom and umm Salamah and Umm Ja’afar and Labbanah and Aliyah and aminah and Hassanah and Burayhah and AISHA and Zeinab and Khadeejah” P125-126.

Aisha bin Ja’afar bin Musa el Kathim bin Ja’afar el Sadik:

قال العمري في المجدي: (( ولد جعفر بن موسى الكاظم بن جعفر الصادق يقال له الخواري، وهو لأم ولد ثماني نسوة وهي: حسنة وعباسة و عائشة وفاطمة الكبرى وفاطمة ( أي الصغرى ) وأسماء وزينب وأم جعفر… )) سر السلسلة العلوية, الهامش الذي كتبه المحقق

Al Umari said in Al Majdee” …For Umm Walad 8 girls: Hassanah and Abbasah and Aisha and Fatimah and Young Fatimah and Asma’a and Zeinab and Umm Ja’afar” [Sir el Silsilah el Alawiyah P63].

Aisha Bint Ali el redah bin Musa el Kathim:
mentioned by ibn Khashab in his book “Mawalid ahlulbayt”, he said:” Al redah had five sons and one daughter and they are Mohammad el Qani’i and Hassan and Ja’afar and Ibrahim and hussein and the girl was called Aisha” [Tawarikh el Nabi wal Aal P128].

Aisha bint ali al Hadi bin Mohammad el Jawad bin Ali el redah:
mentioned by Sheikh Mufid in al Irshad P334 “وخلف من الولد أبا محمد الحسن ابنه هو الإمام من بعده والحسين ومحمد وجعفر وابنته عائشة” “Abu Mohammad had his Son Al Hassan the Imam after him and hussein and mohammad and Ja’afar and his daughter Aisha”.

Talha:

Talha bin el hassan bin Ali Bin Abi Talib:
mentioned in Tareekh el Ya’aqoobi under Sons of Hassan P228 and by Testeri in Tawarikh el nabi wal Aal P120.

Muawiyah:

Muawiyah bin Abdullah bin ja’afar bin Abi Talib:
one of the sons of Abdullah he called him Muawiyah, mentionned in Ansab el ashraf P60-68 and Umdat el Talib P56.

Salam