Hadeeth: “O `Ali! Nobody is permitted to remain in the state of janaba…


Hadeeth: “O `Ali! Nobody is permitted to remain in the state of janaba other than I and you.”

Abdulhussain gave it as hadith #30, in his letter 48.

Shaykh Albani said it’s weak in “Daeef al-jami” (#6402).

Hadith from Abu Saeed al-Khudre.

Ibn Kathir said in his commentary to Quran (2/274, and 2/312 shamela) :

أما ما رواه أبو عيسى الترمذي، من حديث سالم بن أبي حفصة، عن عطية، عن أبي سعيد الخدري قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: يا علي، لا يحل لأحد أن يجنب في هذا المسجد غيري وغيرك. إنه حديث ضعيف لا يثبت؛ فإن سالما هذا متروك، وشيخه عطية ضعيف  والله أعلم.

“As for the hadith that was narrated by Tirmizi from Salim ibn Abu Hafs from Atiya from Abu Saeed al-Hudre, that prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam) said: “O `Ali! Nobody is permitted to remain in the state of janaba in this mosque other than I and you”. This hadith is weak, not established. This Saleem is abandoned, and his shaykh Atiya was weak, and Allah knows best”.

We already talked about Atiya in details here. As for Salim. Falathi said: “Weak, extreme in tashayu”. Ibn Maeen authenticated him. Nasai said: “Not thiqat” (“Mizanul itidal” 2/110/#3046).

We should noticed that Tirmizi said that this hadith is hasan, but he known as lenient in matters of authentication.

Abu Hafs Umar ibn Ali, known like ibn Mulaqun in his “Qayatul sul fi khasais Rasul, sallalahu alaihi wa sallam” (p 38) said:

وفي حسنه نظر ففيه سالم بن أبي حفصة وعطية العوفي وهما ضعيفان جدا شيعيان متهمان

“His saying that it is good is under question, in its chain Salim ibn Abu Hafs and Atiya Awfi, and they are accused, extremely weak shias”

These two narrators also present in the chain in book of Abu Yala (#1042, editor shaykh Hussain Sulaim Asad said chai is weak), and “Tarih madinatul dimashk” (42/140) of ibn Asakir.  Ibn Asakir transmitted it via slight different chain, where instead of Salim, Kathir al-Now narrating from Atiya. However this Kathir is even worse than Salim.  Nasai and Abu Hatim said he’s weak. Ibn Adi noticed that he was extreme in tashayu (“Mizanul itidal” 3/402/#6930). Wakiya in “Ahbarul Gudat” (p 301, shamela) narrated it from Muhammad ibn Abdurrahman ibn Abu Layla from Atiya. This man was upright, but he had extremely bad memory (“Mizanul itidal” 3/613/#7825).

Hadeeth from Sad ibn Abi Wakkas.

It was narrated by al-Bazzar, Al-Heythami in “Majmau zawaid” (#14679) said: “Narrated by al-Bazzar, I don’t know Harajat, and other narrators are thiqat”. I couldn’t find this in book of al-Bazzar, but I seen it in “Leal al-Masnua” of Suyote (1/323). It runs: al-Bazzar – Ibrahim ibn Saeed al-Jawhare – Ismail ibn Abi Uways – his father – al-Hasan ibn Zayd – Harajat ibn Sad – his father.

Scholars differed in Ismail and his father. Ibn Maeen said: Ismail and his father use to steal narrations. Nasai said that Ismail was weak. Nadr ibn Salamah al-Marwaze said Ismail was liar (“Mizanul itidal” 1/222/#854).  His father Abdullah ibn Abdullah ibn Abu Ammar, Abu Uways also was criticized. Ahmad and Yahya said he’s weak. It was also reported that Yahya said he’s saduq. Ibn Madini said that he was weak in the eyes of his (ibn Madini’s) companions. Abu Dawud said: Salihul hadith (“Mizanul itidal” 2/450/#4402). I am not quiet sure who is al-Hasan ibn Zayd, if that’s ibn Zayd ibn a-Hasan ibn Ali al-Alawe, he was weak in the eyes of ibn Maeen (“Mizanul itidal” 1/492/#1850). As for Harajat, then I couldn’t find any information about his reliability in the books on rijal.

Hadeeth from Jabir ibn Abdullah.

It was narrated by ibn Asakir in his history (42/139) as a part of longer hadith, as if prophet sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam, said to Ali: It’s permitted for you in the mosque things that permitted to me.

In the chain Haram ibn Uthman. Malik and Yahya said: Not thiqat. Ahmad said:  People left narrating from him. Shafei and others said: It’s haram to narrate from Haram. Ibn Hibban said: “Qal`iya fi at-tashayu, fabricated chains, and raised mursal reports” (“Mizanul itidal” 1/468/#1766).

Hadeeth from Umm Salamah.

Something similar was narrated by ibn Abu Shaiba from Umm Salamah, as it quoted by Suyote in “Leal al-masnua” (1/323). Text is following: “…. this mosque isn’t permitted (to pass) by junub or menstruating except by prophet, his wifes, Ali and Fatima…”. In the chain Majduh al-Huzale (مجدوح الهذلي). Suyote quoted Bukhari words on him: He’s under the question. From Umm Salamah it was narrated by Jaseera bintul Dajaja, and she was weak. Beyhaki said: Fiha nadhar (she is questionable), Bukhari said: She has ajaib (odd, strange stories) (“Mizanul itidal” 1/399/#1481).

Beyhaki narrated in “Sunnan al-Kubra” (#13180) from Umm Salamah: “..Mosque is forbidden for all menstruating from women, and all junud from men, except for Muhammad and his ahlalbayt, Ali, Fatima, Hasan and Hussain”.

In the chain Ata ibn Moslem. Ibn Maeen said: There is no problem in him, and his ahadeth munkeer. It was also narrated that he said about him: Thiqat. Abu Dawud said: He’s weak (Mizzi “Tahzuib al-kamal” 20/#3940). Other problem in the chain is Ismail ibn Umeyah, he was weak per Daraqutni (“Mizanul itidal” 1/222/#851). And here from Umm Salamah it was narrated again by Jaseera.