Allah Folding Legs?


Shia said:

ونا أَبُو مُحَمَّدٍ الْحَسَنُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ ، قَالَ : نا عَلِيُّ بْنُ عُمَرَ التَّمَّارُ ، مِنْ أَصْلِ كِتَابِهِ ، قَالَ : نا جَعْفَرُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ الْحَكَمِ الْوَاسِطِيُّ ، قَالَ : نا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ عَلِيٍّ الأَبَّارُ أَبُو الْعَبَّاسِ ، قَالَ : نا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ إِسْحَاقَ الصَّاغَانِيُّ ، قَالَ : نا إِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ الْمُنْذِرِ الْحِزَامِيُّ ، قَالَ : نا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ فُلَيْحٍ ، عَنْأَبِيهِ ، عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ الْحَارِثِ ، عَنْ عُبَيْدِ بْنِ حُنَيْنٍ ، قَالَ : بَيْنَا أَنَا جَالِسٌ فِي الْمَسْجِدِ إِذْ جَاءَ قَتَادَةُ بْنُ النُّعْمَانِ فَجَلَسَ يَتَحَدَّثُ وَثَابَ إِلَيْهِ نَاسٌ ، فَقَالَ : انْطَلِقْ بِنَا يَابْنَ حُنَيْنٍ إِلَى أَبِي سَعِيدٍ فَأُخْبِرْتُ أَنَّهُ اشْتَكَى ، قَالَ : فَانْطَلَقْنَا حَتَّى دَخَلْنَا عَلَى أَبِي سَعِيدٍ فَوَجَدْنَاهُ مُسْتَلْقِيًا رَافِعًا رِجْلَهُ الُيْمَنى عَلَى الْيُسْرَى ، فَسَلَّمْنَا عَلَيْهِ وَجَلَسْنَا ، فَرَفَعَ قَتَادَةُ يَدَهُ إِلَى رِجْلِ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ فَقَرَصَهَا قَرْصَةً شَدِيدَةً ، فَقَالَ أَبُو سَعِيدٍ : سُبْحَان اللَّهِ يَابْنَ أَخِي ! أَوْجَعْتَنِي ، قَالَ : ذَاكَ أَرَدْتُ إِنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ، صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ : ” إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَمَّا قَضَى خَلْقَهُ اسْتَلْقَى ثُمَّ رَفَعَ إِحْدَى رِجْلَيْهِ عَلَى الأُخْرَى ، ثُمَّ قَالَ : لا يَنْبَغِي لأَحَدٍ مِنْ خَلْقِي أَنْ يَفْعَلَ هَذَا ” فَقَالَ أَبُو سَعِيدٍ : لا جَرَمَ وَاللَّهِ لا أَفْعَلُهُ أَبَدًا . قَالَ أَبُو مُحَمَّدٍ الْخَلالُ : هَذَا حَدِيثٌ إِسْنَادُهُ كُلُّهُمْ ثِقَاتٌ ، وَهُمْ مَعَ ثِقَتِهِمْ شَرْطُ الصَّحِيحَيْنِ مُسْلِمٍ وَالْبُخَارِيِّ .

….Ubaid ibn Hunain said while i was sat in the mosque , Qatadah ibn al-Numan came so he sat talking to people then we visited Abu Saeed so we found him lying on his back and putting one leg over the other (right leg over left leg) so we greated him and we sat soo Qatadah raised his hand to Abu Saeed leg and pinched him so Abu Saeed said: oh brother, you hurt me, so he answered him: that’s what i wanted, because Rasoolallah (s) said : when Allah finisdhed creating he lied on his back and put one leg over the other and (Rasulallah) said: nobody should do this.

Abu Muhammad al-Khallal said: All of the narrators are truthworthy, and they all truthworthy according to the conditions of two Sahihs of Bukhari and Muslim.

Ibtal at-tawilat li-akhbar as-sifat, v.1, p.188-189, #182

Brother Farid answered:

Assuming that Al-Khallal did say this, and that his opinion is correct, it still doesn’t imply that he necessarily accepts it as authentic, for the strength of the narrators is but a single condition of the authentication of a hadith.

Furthermore, by examining the chain, we realize that the common view is that Ubayd ibn Hunayn was 75 years old when he died. See Al-Siffaat by Al-Bayhaqi (3/917), Al-Tabaqat Al-Sagheer by Ibn Sa’ad (1/199), and Ibn Hibban in Mashaheer Ulama’a Al-Amsaar (p. 73).

105 AH – 75 (years old) = 30 AH

The hadith is still mursal.